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Ohhh, I'm having too much fun to let this go now! I'll state this: Hahahahaaaa... I never stated one way or another how it came to be, right? Now you know!

So here's my final question... whoever said the rose garden had been immediately planted? Break down my counter-argument in blue now and I'll hand over the second game to you.

In the end, it doesn't matter who made the mansion because even if you moved in upon your arrival, that rose garden was no more than two weeks old. Because I was here one day before you and I was in that very spot on my day of arrival.

Further more, you didn't have to cover the whole rose garden. You just had to do it in the area where you would tell me to find a wilted rose.

I didn't know the type of magic you were to perform. All I knew was the wilted rose was to be a prop. Chances are almost zero that I would leave that area. The fact you said I could go anywhere in the garden lowered those chances even more. Since I was not 'limited,' I saw no need to go out of my way to look for a rose and would choose one I saw in the immediate area so I could see the trick.

I did not know what was to happen to the rose and a good many rose tricks don't require any advanced preparations. Even more reason why I wouldn't think to leave the immediate area because I didn't think there was anything done to the rose specifically before hand.

Yet another point was the magic was to be performed a bit before my departure. The chances are even smaller because I wasn't likely to go trekking over the whole garden after the second piece right before I left to find a wilted rose.

There was a possible chance I'd leave the area, but the chance was so small, it would be pure bad luck for you that I would leave the area. And everyone who performs magic has to believe they have some good luck. You even said your magic requires luck, so there's no reason to think you'd be hit by such bad luck.

And a good chunk of magic tricks is to manipulate the audience into acting how you want. All you had to do was to make sure I wouldn't have a specific desire to leave the area.

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.... eheheh... Ehehahaha... [ subdued laughter, not erupting into that obnoxious laughter like she has before. In fact, if you listen closely... she almost sounds very pleased. ] I can feel it. If everything you just said were in blue-- [ a sharp motion across her chest ] Straight through my heart, and I wouldn't be able to pry it free. Even if you didn't say it in blue, I can feel a shadow of what could have been if it had been. That argument... is lovely. That's what makes that argument so beautiful! I'm thrilled!

I'm thrilled and absolutely enraged! My, I don't get that combination often, do I?! [ CACKLE ] The second game is yours! Be honored by it!

[Kind of curious at how subdued the laughter is. It kind of worries him, but he's in detective mode, so he's doing a good job at hiding it.]

Are you? Heh, it's not actually that bad of a feeling, depending on the circumstances. [God knew Kid made him feel like that. And there's a smirk.]

It's only my duty to provide a thrilling deduction.

I can only hope the criminals you've taken down feel honored that it was you who did it-- but I bet most of them didn't provide much of a challenge, did they? [ cacklecacklecackle ]

And you didn't disappoint! I'm very pleased with that reasoning, but brace for a much harder game. I'll expect you to entertain and enrage me all the more!

Two pieces, yes? That's what we agreed on.

More like they're mortified if they realize a 'kid' did it. Otherwise, I use a figurehead to take the credit. [Well, she already knew everything else and she probably wouldn't care much about the drugging.] And some are more challenging than others.

It is a proper tradition, to have levels get harder as a game progresses.

That's correct.

Hopefully I'll be able to steal the title of being the most challenging. I'm sure you've guessed as much, but I really dislike being outdone.

Right now, or would you rather return to your books?

Well, you're certainly ahead of most criminals. At least ahead of those I HAVE put in jail.

Now's good. Now I'm excited to see what new pieces I'll see next. [But he's packing those comics in the suit jacket to keep them safe for the time being.]

Hmhmhm, it's nice to know you think so. And I suppose it would be useless to put me in jail here for anything if there's no police force to begin with, mm?

You should be. There's something very interesting in store for today. Shall we head back to the garden?

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That does pose a problem, yes. Not to mention you haven't really committed a crime, so there wouldn't be anything to arrest you for.

[Nods, picking up the jacket with the comics.] Lead the way.

You're still sticking by that? ... hoh. At this rate, you really will make it your queen, won't you? If you haven't already.

[ And walking until they reach that rose garden. If you take the time to notice-- or can pick it out out of all the flowers-- the rose she performed the trick on has wilted again. A case of the flower reverting to the state it once was before her magic, typical endless magic. ]

Ready? I believe this is where we left off last time.

Well, you haven't committed a crime yet. I have to see how you really fit into it all first before I can say you have committed a crime, but I'd prefer not to form a bias.

[Does note it, but doesn't question it. After all, solving the magic trick isn't the important part of the game and asking about it now might make him lose the second piece.]

I'm ready. Maria had just read a letter she got from 'Beatrice' to the family.

I'm interested in seeing how much you can form from this first game, really. [ Already fascinated that he made the Divine Comedy associated, but like hell she is ever going to bring that up again. ] It's very different from the next two.

I'll summarize things from there. The family argued over its validity and so on and so forth. I'm going to bring you now to a little discussion between Kyrie and Battler... you already know that it's best to follow him, anyway. [ Said with a dryly sarcastic tone. Damn you, truth day. Anyway, again, seven colors of smoke are spilling from her pipe and surrounding the area. ]

[ And again, they're taken back into the illusionary memory of Rokkenjima. Normally, Beato would skip this-- it's Kyrie's lecture on flipping the chessboard, on how Beatrice is probably one of the 18, and so on-- mostly because these are things Conan's already guessed. But she won't omit vital parts of the mystery from him, so the reason they're listening to this is for Rudolf's interruption... with his 'I'll probably be killed tonight' line. ]

... Quite a prophet, isn't he? Maybe Rudolf inherited some of Kinzo's latent magic as well.

Is it? Is it because Battler hasn't realized what's going on?

That would be best. [Smirks a bit.] Better to know from the reliable viewpoint.

[Listens to the discussion. Really, there was just chess metaphors all over the place? Though maybe the flipping the chessboard line is what prompted it? And then Rudolf came in...]

...so he did. [And he looks quite interested in that, the expression on his face saying he was already connecting points.] I take it he dies before he gets to talk to Battler?

Indeed. This is the game that takes place right before he challenged me. So it's very interesting to get to fight someone on these grounds.

... Come now, I'm not spoiling anything for when the deeds actually happen. Forgive me if I'm irritatingly vague from here on out, I have to be careful with my treasured red sword. [ cackle! ] Ah... I think Natsuhi and Krauss are up to something interesting as well. Let's take a look.

If this is the 'first game,' then it's no surprise. It's like the island. No one realizes a game board has been set up despite all the pieces around.

It's not really a 'spoil' as that's how this usually works. It's always before someone says something important that they die. Hopefully it will not be the reason for his death or it'd be truly sad. [And he has figured out at least a few of the people were going to die.] Ah, are they? Let's go then.

Then I wonder if there's a post-game for our dear island?

Hmhmhm... [ Doing a simple scene shift instead of walking, magic is handy. Krauss is just unveiling that gold bar to Natsuhi to prove it exists and that Kinzo's gold presumably does as well. ] Quite a find, Krauss... I must applaud you.

[ She's not asking this time before doing another scene shift. It's Jessica passing on her scorpion pendant to Natsuhi. Which earns an irritated look from Beatrice. ] Honestly, Jessica, you make things annoying for me sometimes.

If there is, it's made people wait a long time for it.

[He raised an eyebrow at that.] His proof was one gold bar of unknown origin? And how he convinced investors. And to be believed so easily, it's quite suspicious.

[Looked at Beatrice and then at Natsuhi and chuckled.] An early target you were unable to touch?

A good mastermind knows how to draw things out to suit its means.

It also establishes a fine motive, doesn't it? -- Oops, that slipped. But you probably already knew that, so it's fine, really.

Sadly. [ Watches Natsuhi walk back to her room. ] There's one more scene I need to show you before we can finish this piece and move onto the second.

But if it's too long, then it loses all impact and interest.

The gold? Oh, of course the gold is a motive, but I'm now curious if it does exist. One gold bar as proof to the investors? It sounds like a con job. Has anyone seen any of the gold beyond that one bar?

[Nods, watching Natsuhi leave.] Okay.

Depends on the perspective of the player and the pieces, of course.

That remains to be seen, doesn't it? [ cackle! ]

[ Scene shift once more! It's a pretty drastic change, as now they're in the pouring rain in front of the arbor. Now we get to watch George's proposal to Shannon! Which... in other situations, would be really sweet, but really only gives an ominous feeling given what's going to happen next.

Beato is really not helping the mood, she's just humming along the wedding march, which just sounds eerie coming from her. ] Ah... that's no good, is it, detective? These kinds of scenes are never good.

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Done!

Woo~! I'm going to go up in level of my BSing skills by the time they're through.

There's no end to the level of BSing one can do with Umineko arguments :|b

This is true! I also find myself watching a whole lot more youtube videos on magic.

That and remembering Beato constantly omits stuff with the Red Truth should help a lot :|b

That it does~! Also, I keepwanting to see Conan use Blue just cause he'd freak at hurting Beato. O_o

... oh god that'd be so cool to play out. MORAL CONFLICTS.

IT WOULD BE! I have no idea HOW, but he'd do anything to take back the damage.

As long as Beato could cut it down in red afterward, she'd be okay!

So the Blue must always be weak for his sanity.

... Unless he really wants to impale her, yes. s-sob - 1/2

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He really doesn't. He feels bad cause he let a murderer commit suicide. Or rather couldn't stop him.

W-WELL At least... Beato is really hard to kill. Or permanently maim.

At least there's that!

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